Grief Out Loud
What If We Didn't Have To Do Death Alone? - Crystal Meneses on Culture, Care, & Community

Episode 363 · Season 1

What If We Didn't Have To Do Death Alone? - Crystal Meneses on Culture, Care, & Community

Grief Out Loud

September 2, 202649:18

About this episode

<div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29767397 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">What if we thought about death not as something that needs to be handed over to institutions, but as something that communities could face together?</span><span class="EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29767397 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">In this episode </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">we talk</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0"> with Crystal Meneses, a death worker, spiritual counselor, hospice chaplain, artist,</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">musician,</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">and longtime community caregiver. Crystal's path into death work began with watching a recording of her grandfather's funeral in the Philippines</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">, which sparked questions around being able to one day provide a similar ceremony for her father</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">. </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Questions that inspired her work to help us</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">rethink how we approach death and dying.</span></span><span class="EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":0,"335559737":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240,"335559740":279}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29767397 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Crystal and Jana explore the cultural differences in how death and grief are understood, including what Crystal has learned from her Filipino and Indigenous connections. They talk about the possibilities of caring for someone at home, tending to their body after death, creating rituals, and making intentional choices around end-of-life</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">.</span></span><span class= "EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":0,"335559737":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240,"335559740":279}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29767397 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Crystal also shares what she's witnessed in</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0"> the communities she serves</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">-</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">including elders, caregivers, young people, and people in</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">prisons and other institutional</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">settings</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">-</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">and the many ways grief</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">goes</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0"> unsupported.</span></span> <span class="EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":0,"335559737":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240,"335559740":279}">  </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29767397 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Throughout the conversation, Crystal returns to the importance of</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">relationship</span><span class= "TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">: building networks of care, making room for different spiritual beliefs and identities, and practicing togetherness in a culture that often treats death as something to </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">manage alone.</span></span><span class="EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29767397 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><strong><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">We Discuss:</span></strong></p> <ul> <li class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Crystal's two grandmothers and the </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">different cultural</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">relationships she experienced with death and grief</span></span> <span class= "EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0}">  </span></li> <li class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">What it means to "bring death back into the hands of communities" </span><span class= "EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0}"> </span></li> <li class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Crystal's own hopes for her end-of-life care </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">& how she cares for herself in this work</span></span><span class= "EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0}"> </span></li> <li class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Supporting </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">children and teens</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">through art and music when grief is difficult to put into words</span></span></li> <li class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Indigenous, multicultural, and </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">multispiritual</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">approaches to grief and death</span></span> <span class= "EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0}">  </span></li> <li class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">The systemic barriers that make care and connection more difficul</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">t</span></span><span class= "EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29767397 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Crystal reminds us that there</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">isn't</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">one right way to grieve, to die, or to care for someone who is dying</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">,</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">and that we may have more choices than</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">we've</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">been taught to</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">believ</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">e.</span></span><span class="EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":0,"335559737":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240,"335559740":279}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29767397 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW29767397 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29767397 BCX0">Connect with Crystal on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/crystalakinsmeneses/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">IG</a> - https://www.instagram.com/crystalakinsmeneses/</span><span class= "EOP Selected SCXW29767397 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"> </span></p> </div>