273: Does the Language Really Matter?

273: Does the Language Really Matter?

October 7, 2025

39:29

About this episode

<p>News includes Chris McCord releasing a shell-based web browser tool for LLMs extracted from phoenix.new, a new schema validation library called Zoi inspired by JavaScript&#39;s Zod, AshDiagram for generating beautiful visualizations of AshFramework applications, the Erlang Ecosystem Foundation&#39;s progress toward EU Cyber Resilience Act readiness with their Ægis security initiative, PostgreSQL 18.0 release with Index Skip Scans and async I/O improvements, Anthropic&#39;s Claude Sonnet 4.5 release, IEEE&#39;s Top Programming Languages 2025 list and a discussion about whether AI-assisted coding means the end of programming language rankings, and more!</p> <p>Show Notes online - <a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/273" rel="nofollow">http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/273</a></p> <p><strong>Elixir Community News</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://paraxial.io/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_campaign=thinkingelixir-oct2025" rel="nofollow">https://paraxial.io/</a> – Paraxial.io is sponsoring today&#39;s show! Sign up for a free trial of Paraxial.io today and mention Thinking Elixir when you schedule a demo for a special offer.</li> <li><a href="https://x.com/chris_mccord/status/1972721288029548924?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/chris_mccord/status/1972721288029548924</a> – Chris McCord announces the web shell command for LLM web browsing</li> <li><a href="https://github.com/chrismccord/web?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/chrismccord/web</a> – Web - shell command for simple LLM web browsing that converts web pages to markdown, executes js, and interacts with pages</li> <li><a href="https://hexdocs.pm/zoi/Zoi.html?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://hexdocs.pm/zoi/Zoi.html</a> – Zoi - a new schema validation library for Elixir inspired by the popular JavaScript library Zod</li> <li><a href="https://github.com/phcurado/zoi?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/phcurado/zoi</a> – Zoi GitHub repository</li> <li><a href="https://zod.dev/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://zod.dev/</a> – Zod - the JavaScript library that inspired Zoi</li> <li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/zachdaniel.dev/post/3lzwvkdlsw22c?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://bsky.app/profile/zachdaniel.dev/post/3lzwvkdlsw22c</a> – Announcement of AshDiagram by Jonatan Männchen</li> <li><a href="https://hexdocs.pm/ash_diagram/AshDiagram.html?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://hexdocs.pm/ash_diagram/AshDiagram.html</a> – AshDiagram - library for generating beautiful diagrams to visualize AshFramework applications including Entity Relationship, Class, C4 Architecture, and Policy diagrams</li> <li><a href="https://github.com/team-alembic/ash_diagram?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/team-alembic/ash_diagram</a> – AshDiagram GitHub repository with examples of generated diagrams</li> <li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/theerlef.bsky.social/post/3lzypq74brc25?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://bsky.app/profile/theerlef.bsky.social/post/3lzypq74brc25</a> – EEF Security Update announcement</li> <li><a href="https://security.erlef.org/assets/aegis/updates/2025-q3.pdf?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://security.erlef.org/assets/aegis/updates/2025-q3.pdf</a> – Erlang Ecosystem Foundation&#39;s Ægis Initiative Q3 2025 security update document</li> <li><a href="https://erlef.org/blog/eef/beam-worm?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://erlef.org/blog/eef/beam-worm</a> – EEF blog post about BEAM security initiatives</li> <li><a href="https://cyber-resilience-act.com/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://cyber-resilience-act.com/</a> – Information about the EU&#39;s Cyber Resilience Act (CRA)</li> <li><a href="https://cyber-resilience-act.com/cra/chapter-2/article-24/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://cyber-resilience-act.com/cra/chapter-2/article-24/</a> – CRA Article 24 covering requirements for open-source software stewards</li> <li><a href="https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5</a> – Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5</li> <li><a href="https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#200?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#200</a> – Claude Code 2.0 update with new native VS Code extension</li> <li><a href="https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-18-released-3142/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-18-released-3142/</a> – PostgreSQL 18.0 release announcement</li> <li><a href="https://www.crunchydata.com/blog/get-excited-about-postgres-18?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://www.crunchydata.com/blog/get-excited-about-postgres-18</a> – Crunchy Data blog post about PostgreSQL 18 features</li> <li><a href="https://x.com/vlad_mihalcea/status/1972198023200440720?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/vlad_mihalcea/status/1972198023200440720</a> – PostgreSQL 18 now supports Index Skip Scans and async I/O when scanning pages from disk</li> <li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/oban.pro/post/3lzq2hq7uec2r?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://bsky.app/profile/oban.pro/post/3lzq2hq7uec2r</a> – Oban team shares what PostgreSQL 18 means for the Oban project</li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlAf9jRMIR0?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlAf9jRMIR0</a> – Southern California Linux Expo talk diving into PostgreSQL 18 details</li> <li><a href="https://spectrum.ieee.org/top-programming-languages-2025?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://spectrum.ieee.org/top-programming-languages-2025</a> – IEEE&#39;s Top Programming Languages 2025 list</li> <li><a href="https://developers.slashdot.org/story/25/09/28/1823244/will-ai-mean-bring-an-end-to-top-programming-language-rankings?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes" rel="nofollow">https://developers.slashdot.org/story/25/09/28/1823244/will-ai-mean-bring-an-end-to-top-programming-language-rankings</a> – Discussion about whether AI means the end for top programming language rankings</li> </ul> <p>Do you have some Elixir news to share? 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